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  • #16
    Originally posted by massbay View Post

    Are you in boston? we just got in a bunch of 115's
    DF115's or F115's?
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    • Bstnsportsfan
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      I was wondering that too. I hear yamahas are a year out, is that true?

    • Parker Yacht
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      Engines under a 100hp are coming in, provided you ordered them before 8/31/2021.
      ANYTHING NOT ordered BEFORE 8/31/2021 you will NOT see until Maybe Oct 2022.
      IF they were ordered before 8/31/2021 you might see engines over 100hp 2nd/3rd Qtr 2022

    • Bstnsportsfan
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      Holy smokes!!! That is a huge delay. Suzuki 115 is about 3-6 months (according to outboard specialties). I was hoping to strongly consider Yamaha 115s (regular or the sho) but that wait might be too much.

  • #17
    Originally posted by Parker Yacht View Post

    DF115's or F115's?
    mercs

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    • #18
      Get the Mercazuk, they are all good!

      Being the frugal one that I am, I'd keep the corrosion down as much as possible and save cash for next purchase.

      My understanding is the 140 has known corrosion issues that can be kept in check with attention to care.
      Other than that the mechanical design is πŸš… in my opinion.
      Best of luck!!!

      BWP

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      • #19
        Just thinking here,
        if I lost a motor due to corrosion that brand would be off of my shopping list.

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        • #20
          My old 115 Mercury had salt buildup, caked in midsection after dropping lower unit, no corrosion anywhere, it was a '96 and it made me appreciate Mercury's so much that I replaced it with another One!

          Life is she, buy what you want, you're paying for it!

          Still love my new one, have 79 hours, still impressed Everytime it starts, I'm anal about keeping fully charged batteries!

          Maintain and stay boating.

          BWP

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          • Bstnsportsfan
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            Who did you go through to buy/install your Mercury?

          • bluewaterposer
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            Got it from Two Rivers Marine, Stuart.
            Due to mine being a 2017 never registered I got an exceptional deal.

            I recommend any dealer of any brand due to such a short supply.
            Good luck Brother.

        • #21
          Originally posted by bluewaterposer View Post
          My old 115 Mercury had salt buildup, caked in midsection after dropping lower unit, no corrosion anywhere, it was a '96 and it made me appreciate Mercury's so much that I replaced it with another One!

          Life is she, buy what you want, you're paying for it!

          Still love my new one, have 79 hours, still impressed Everytime it starts, I'm anal about keeping fully charged batteries!

          Maintain and stay boating.

          BWP
          You live where Ralph Evinrude lived and had his test facility. Carl kiekhafer (Mercury) had his test center in St. Cloud. They were bitter enemies. Early on, Evinrudes were fairly simple and dependable, while Mercuries were innovative, fast, and quirky.

          Decades ago, my high school buddy had a plywood Borum boat and 70 hp, mercury, Friggin' thing was hard to start, and when it started it had to idle fast. Problem was, it had no neutral! Just started running backwards! Dam thing would start in reverse and accelerate quickly, burying the transom. Boat had no splash well. How it never sank I;m just not sure.

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        • #22
          Originally posted by Billinfla View Post

          You live where Ralph Evinrude lived and had his test facility. Carl kiekhafer (Mercury) had his test center in St. Cloud. They were bitter enemies. Early on, Evinrudes were fairly simple and dependable, while Mercuries were innovative, fast, and quirky.

          Decades ago, my high school buddy had a plywood Borum boat and 70 hp, mercury, Friggin' thing was hard to start, and when it started it had to idle fast. Problem was, it had no neutral! Just started running backwards! Dam thing would start in reverse and accelerate quickly, burying the transom. Boat had no splash well. How it never sank I;m just not sure.
          That was a direct reverse 70, 6 cyl motor can change direction by changing the firing order.
          so there was no reverse gear in the lower unit. They just ran the motor the other way to go the other way.
          That was Kiekhafer merc before Brunswick. They had a lot of innovative patents, but they didn't all work as planned!

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          • #23
            Originally posted by massbay View Post
            Just thinking here,
            if I lost a motor due to corrosion that brand would be off of my shopping list.
            Normally I’d agree 100% however I bought the boat used with this 17 year old motor. I don’t know how the prior owners treated it.

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            • #24
              Originally posted by Bstnsportsfan View Post

              Normally I’d agree 100% however I bought the boat used with this 17 year old motor. I don’t know how the prior owners treated it.
              Last week I sent one of the marina customer's off to the suzuki dealer. a bigger job than I wanted to do.
              2006 suzy this guy bought it used, has owned it for 4 yrs.
              during his time He got towed in lost a fuel pump
              He got towed in lost a lower unit
              power trim corroded out, needed a whole new assy
              this time stalling and lack of power, lost compression 2 cyls.
              Suzy dealer say's you need a new motor. He calls and ask's can you get me a 250 merc? No I can't.
              than I'm going to buy a new susy he has in stock.

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              • #25
                And whadya know, there's one available from our friend Oliver James, who never speaks HERE
                Sanibel FL
                Axopar 28 Cabin, 2 x 200 Merc 3.4L V6

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              • #26
                Originally posted by TomS View Post
                And whadya know, there's one available from our friend Oliver James, who never speaks HERE
                He must get a commission for what he post here for Ebay.
                it's all Ebay stuff, but never fro the same seller.
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                • #27
                  But the Suzuki is 3000 dollars less!

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                  • #28
                    Originally posted by Pstephens46 View Post
                    But the Suzuki is 3000 dollars less!
                    I’m actually leaning towards a Mercury 115 Pro XS or a Yamaha F115 (possibly VMax Sho) if I can find one.

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                    • #29
                      I recently had this same discussion with a friend getting ready to power a fleet of training vessels on order. From a purely corrosion standpoint, I like the Mercury engines best. After that I like Yamaha. Honda and Tohatsu would be a near third, with Suzuki not making the cut at all.

                      The Merc is my favorite due to the number of plastics used in the fuel system which reduces (it does not entirely eliminate) corrosion issues that can occur inside the fuel system, specifically the VST. On recreational use engines, there is a higher likelihood the engine will sit and if the fuel system is compromised (water in fuel, condensation, poor ventilation, rapid temp swings, etc.), the internals of the VST will degrade. This is not limited to the fuel pump but also the actual canister. On the other brands, I have replaced full assemblies where the corrosion was too great to guarantee a reliable rebuild.

                      Overall, I also find their coatings and alloy selection to be superior. Yamaha has excellent coating processes with a slightly less corrosion resistant casting alloy but far superior fasteners to the other brands (zinc/aluminum coated stainless steel).

                      If someone gave me a brand new engine and said, "go way out now," I wouldn't hesitate with any of them. If you asked what I would want to own after the end of the warranty period, it is the order I said above.
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                      • #30
                        Thank you for sharing this information. It is I think how I am leaning. The Pro XS is at the top then Yamaha. Though of coarse availability will effect it slightly. I think Suzuki is behind Mercury and Yamaha. Though as you mentioned they are all very good engines and reliable. I do like the option for a 8(?) year warranty on Mercury.

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