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  • #61
    Originally posted by Sailfish 218 View Post

    And as for the taxpayers paying, that's another load of crap. Most of them actually do pay taxes including SS taxes which they will most likely never collect on, let alone sales tax, gas tax, and all the other everyday taxes we forget about. And, most of them use local clinics for health care which they pay for out of pocket. But trump needs his bogeyman to keep you all in an uproar.

    I guess it's OK though that they pick all the fruits and vegetables that you eat and keeps your food costs low.
    So what if they pay sales tax and gas tax and whatever other consumption tax that we all pay. What about fed and state income tax? Kind of hard to pay that when you are getting paid cash.

    I'm with Ole on they pay out of pocket for there health care. Where is the data to support that statement?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Parker Yacht View Post

      Bullsheet.
      They use Medicaid.
      And whatever else they can scam from the taxpayers...Charlie
      Greetings from Lake Hopatcong NJ / Milltown NJ

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Parker Yacht View Post

        Bullsheet.
        They use Medicaid.
        What we found was the ones that knew the system could work with a bogus SS number for a few months before it was caught
        Taxes taken out every week
        They never got an advantage to the taxes taken out
        All they wanted was to earn $$$ and send it home

        Yeah, Ok it's a problem but not to the degree that the Boogey Man is making it
        It's a problem that's gone on since we stole Texas from them it aint' no new problem
        Little Nicky Scarfo killed about as many people in South Phiily during his reign as the Mafia kingpin than these guys kill and I dont recall the mob paying taxes on drugs, prostitutiion, loan sharking or anything of the like

        The emperor has it down pat as to how to enflame his base followers

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        • #64
          Whatever spin you want to put on it, us, we, you me and all else tax paying citizens help support the "illegals" in this country.
          Be it through Medicaid, Obmacare, welfare, whatever. We ALL pay.
          The "system" is being beat everyday.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Parker Yacht View Post
            Whatever spin you want to put on it, us, we, you me and all else tax paying citizens help support the "illegals" in this country.
            Be it through Medicaid, Obmacare, welfare, whatever. We ALL pay.
            The "system" is being beat everyday.
            No one is argueing the fact that illegal immigration is costing money and has to be stopped
            However, it is being blown out of proportion and being used as a political cattle prod by a guy who knows the entertainment business and knows how to do a Chicken Little act
            There aint' gonna be no ongoing tarriffs either side
            It'll simmer down and his majesty will claim a victory just as he's claimed a victory with North Korea even though running his mouth has driven N.Korea closer to China, it's ally
            The mans mouth knows no limits
            It's an ongoing TV show

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Parker Yacht View Post
              Whatever spin you want to put on it, us, we, you me and all else tax paying citizens help support the "illegals" in this country.
              Be it through Medicaid, Obmacare, welfare, whatever. We ALL pay.
              The "system" is being beat everyday.
              How many illegals do you think are signed up for Obamacare or Medicaid?

              Direct from Healthcare.Gov: "Undocumented immigrants aren’t eligible to buy Marketplace health coverage, or for premium tax credits and other savings on Marketplace plans." And: "In order to get Medicaid and CHIP coverage, many qualified non-citizens (such as many LPRs or green card holders) have a 5-year waiting period. This means they must wait 5 years after receiving "qualified" immigration status before they can get Medicaid and CHIP coverage."


              The system is being beaten every day at least as often by deadbeat American citizens, if not more so. The Illegals mostly stay in the shadows and cause as little problems as possible. The only immigrants that have truly raped the US are the Cubans that come in on the "Wet foot, dry foot program" and immediately get to go on food stamps and housing assistance.They have been since 1966 with the Cuban Adjustment Act.

              You want to bitch abut immigrants, that's the place to start and by the way, it was ended by President Barack Obama. Can you believe?

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              • #67
                Sailfish,
                I don't disagree with you.
                The problem lies as much from within the US as much as it does with "outside", how do we fix it?
                When it's easier for our own citizens to live off the Government (us) then to get a job and support themselves, how does it get fixed?
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Parker Yacht View Post
                  Sailfish,
                  I don't disagree with you.
                  The problem lies as much from within the US as much as it does with "outside", how do we fix it?
                  When it's easier for our own citizens to live off the Government (us) then to get a job and support themselves, how does it get fixed?
                  We've been trying to fix it since The Alamo when we stole Texas from them
                  There aint' no fix the way most people with a brain interpret "fix"
                  Illegal immigration along our southern most border aint' gonna be stopped totally
                  Not with a wall paid for by Mexico as it was sold to us as an idea that was pure BS just a RAH RAH session for the faithful
                  Not with deploying our military

                  It can be controlled as well as can be and as evidenced by the recent numbers being low in comparison to recent years

                  What we're seeing is a magnification of something that's been going on since any of us were born
                  Just being used politically as never was before to enflame people who buy into the BS
                  Calling illegals rapists and such gets the loyal Trumpets all fired up and the cheerleading sessions begin
                  There are those that rise to the call for blood and the emperor is an expert at that
                  It also takes attention away from the rest of the cesspool he brings to DC with him and the rest of his ongoing circus




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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Comm. (VP) Mike Carrigan Sr. View Post

                    Last four boats I delivered last week:
                    23' $75,000 Financed
                    20' $50,000 Financed
                    22' $60.00,000 Cash Deal
                    24' $77,000 Financed

                    Finance term went from 12 years to 20 years which is about par.
                    This is a key element that brings back nightmares from '09-'10.......lots of debt for middle America.
                    A little hiccup and here go defaults.......discretionary, then credit card, vehicle and eventually mortgage.
                    Assume credit is relatively easy again, for now?

                    Heaven forbid $3.50 a gallon gas!
                    And national debt at $21ish +/- trillion and rising.......
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                    • #70
                      [QUOTE=Comm. (VP) Mike Carrigan Sr.;n44274]


                      Not with a wall paid for by Mexico as it was sold to us as an idea that was pure BS just a RAH RAH session for the faithful
                      Not with deploying our military


                      What we're seeing is a magnification of something that's been going on since any of us were born
                      Just being used politically as never was before to enflame people who buy into the BS
                      Calling illegals rapists and such gets the loyal Trumpets all fired up and the cheerleading sessions begin
                      There are those that rise to the call for blood and the emperor is an expert at that
                      It also takes attention away from the rest of the cesspool he brings to DC with him and the rest of his ongoing circus


                      [QUOTE]



                      Thats all I hear from you Mike.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Parker Yacht View Post
                        Sailfish,
                        I don't disagree with you.
                        The problem lies as much from within the US as much as it does with "outside", how do we fix it?
                        When it's easier for our own citizens to live off the Government (us) then to get a job and support themselves, how does it get fixed?
                        And I don't disagree either. I've grown up with mostly Cuban but also Central and South American migrants since Castro took over when I was in high school. I've gone through the same stages as most South Floridian natives did of aggravation, dislike, and even hatred of seeing our cities and town slowly turn bi-lingual. But you know what happened? That was a different time and a different place. I got to know a lot of them and I saw second and third generations blend into our Country and they became people, real people to me. Although the older ones didn't assimilate, the younger generations are now our neighbors, speaking English and living the american dream. And I realized they are no different than we are.

                        And Jim's concern of 1000 immigrants a day coming across our border. What he misses is that currently, there are just as many, if not more, going back in the other direction.

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                        • #72
                          [QUOTE=SIM;n44282][QUOTE=Comm. (VP) Mike Carrigan Sr.;n44274]


                          Not with a wall paid for by Mexico as it was sold to us as an idea that was pure BS just a RAH RAH session for the faithful
                          Not with deploying our military


                          What we're seeing is a magnification of something that's been going on since any of us were born
                          Just being used politically as never was before to enflame people who buy into the BS
                          Calling illegals rapists and such gets the loyal Trumpets all fired up and the cheerleading sessions begin
                          There are those that rise to the call for blood and the emperor is an expert at that
                          It also takes attention away from the rest of the cesspool he brings to DC with him and the rest of his ongoing circus





                          Thats all I hear from you Mike.
                          How many Mexican immigrants do you have living on your island, Andy? Just curious.

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                          • #73
                            Since I am in the tile installation business I see first hand how easy it is for illegal immigrants to not have drivers license or not pay for insurance or get a DUI and not get into any trouble at all. I talk to them all the time on the construction sites. It is shockingly easy for them to get family members or friends in illegally. If they get sick they just go to the hospital and there is no repaying anything back. Most of you guys don't see it because it hasn't affected you yet or your job. I would love to see illegal immigrants take your jobs for lower wages. That would be sweet! I am referring to Sailfish and Carrigan.

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                            • #74
                              [QUOTE=SIM;n44282][QUOTE=Comm. (VP) Mike Carrigan Sr.;n44274]


                              Not with a wall paid for by Mexico as it was sold to us as an idea that was pure BS just a RAH RAH session for the faithful
                              Not with deploying our military


                              What we're seeing is a magnification of something that's been going on since any of us were born
                              Just being used politically as never was before to enflame people who buy into the BS
                              Calling illegals rapists and such gets the loyal Trumpets all fired up and the cheerleading sessions begin
                              There are those that rise to the call for blood and the emperor is an expert at that
                              It also takes attention away from the rest of the cesspool he brings to DC with him and the rest of his ongoing circus





                              Thats all I hear from you Mike.
                              No actually there's some more

                              Todays news "Your Emperor" says he has no knowledge of his lawyer paying off his Porn Star and has no idea where his lawyer got the money to do so.

                              Now Andy,
                              You believe the things this guys sells you?
                              Andy, no kidding, huh?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Surfercross View Post
                                Since I am in the tile installation business I see first hand how easy it is for illegal immigrants to not have drivers license or not pay for insurance or get a DUI and not get into any trouble at all. I talk to them all the time on the construction sites. It is shockingly easy for them to get family members or friends in illegally. If they get sick they just go to the hospital and there is no repaying anything back. Most of you guys don't see it because it hasn't affected you yet or your job. I would love to see illegal immigrants take your jobs for lower wages. That would be sweet! I am referring to Sailfish and Carrigan.
                                Some of our very best fiberglass workers turned out to be illegals
                                INS bus came, off they went and we lost some very good people
                                They had SS Cards, ID'S,
                                Nothing new about any of this

                                I had a project in Newport Beach, CA that was supposed to take a couple weeks that went into over six months
                                Best I had were illegals
                                To me they were subs so I had no direct knowledge that they were illegals but common sense told me they were

                                Worked their asses off, worked cheap, didn't complain about a thing, always showed up and never complained about working late or on weekends or on Sunday.....................Except Cinco De Mayo

                                Frankly, if I had first hand knowledge that they were illegals it would not have mattered to me one bit

                                I was 100% satisfied with the project and my "Rapists" and "Murders"

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