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    Musk triggers liberals with email urging employees to commit to ‘extremely hardcore’ work: Musk's ‘hellscape'

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/musk-t...usks-hellscape


    Twitter owner Elon Musk’s latest attempt to streamline his new social media company has been met with yet more wailing and gnashing of teeth from disapproving liberals on Twitter.

    Early Wednesday morning, the world’s richest man and newly installed Twitter CEO emailed the site’s employees with an ultimatum, obligating them to commit to an "extremely hardcore" work ethic or leaving the company.

    Musk argued that Twitter must be ready for a more "increasingly competitive world" and therefore employees must be ready to give more. CNN correspondent Donie O’Sullivan provided a screenshot of Musk’s surprise email.

    In it, Musk wrote, "Going forward, to build a breakthrough Twitter 2.0 and succeed in an increasingly competitive world, we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade."

    Interesting old school approach to me. Personally I would want to work for someone with that kind of attitude. But I can see how this generation would look at this kind of work environment as non productive. Musk is basically saying to his employee's, either work, or be gone. It must have been a really cushy, non productive place to work before he arrived.



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  • #2
    CEO works that hard for CEO money and perks - like being a billionaire.

    Joe computer programmer works his ass off so the CEO’s stock can rise a few points.

    Office Space (the movie) spells it out spot on.

    If we’re talking giving the employees profit sharing, stock options, bonuses - then he has a point and proper motivation. Otherwise - he can go screw.




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    • #3
      From everything I read Twitter was losing money....millions of it a month. And from the videos posted online, it was a pretty plush undisciplined place to work. I don't think the emphasis right now is profit sharing, since there is NO profit to be shared. The emphasis is getting it back to profitability. The employees' have a choice, work or be fired. But I am sure many of them find that unfair. What is this work you speak of?
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      • #4
        "The floggings will continue until moral improves"

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        • #5
          Private company, he can do what he wants.
          And I agree with all Andy has said, problem is lately motivating people to "make a profit", most folks just want the paycheck.
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          • Tiretyme
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            As do I!!
            You, Andy, any business owner knows you can’t pay from an empty coffer.
            Not to mention the business owner puts his own $$$, A$$, etc on the line and provides livelihood to many families in the process, who have no risk whatsoever other than doing their job.
            Too many people today EXPECT and are not willing to EARN

        • #6
          He’s getting rid of the “quiet quitters”.

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          • #7
            Would that all employers take that approach! I worked for those with that type of approach and demanded no less from anyone I managed or employed in the past. And I demand it of myself and raised my kids the same way. The days of jr living in the basement need to go away along with feel good spaces or whatever they were called. I say once again bring back a military requirement for all our young people and for those who cross our border illegally and want to become citizens. Enough is quite enough!

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            • #8
              Last time I checked, I didn’t see anyone forcing them to go
              to work each morning at Twitter.

              not the first time a company was losing money and a new owner takes over and tries to make it profitable.

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Parker Yacht View Post
                Private company, he can do what he wants.
                And I agree with all Andy has said, problem is lately motivating people to "make a profit", most folks just want the paycheck.
                Most people just want the paycheck because of lessons learned from watching the previous generation get screwed.

                Watching their old man “give it his all” just to get flushed at the end of his career. Watching older employees go all sorts of extra miles and sacrifice family time and personal life… and they end up getting a retirement lunch, a piece of cake and an escort to the door.

                And not one shit is given after that person leaves.

                Corporate world will flat suck out anything you are willing to give and flush you out with the daily trash when they are done with you.

                There is no more loyalty from employers, there are no pensions (it’s rare), and you are at the mercy of some young hot shot MBA that can decide your fate with the stroke of a pen.

                Im now in lovely “middle management” - people are numbers, cattle. And if the company can get more value from a high value employee in India - you are shit out of luck.

                It’s just flat not worth it to kill yourself for the modern company.

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                • #10
                  The days of legacy employees have been gone for decades. Grand fathers, fathers and sons working for the same company doesn’t happen anymore. After 5 years with any company, you now cost them money, be it vacation time, profit sharing, etc. unless you’re doing exceptional work you can always be replaced.

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                  • #11
                    Man, some of you guys have really terrible views. I have been with the same company for 34 years and they have treated me very well.. They did EXACTLY what they said they would do. I have never had to ask for a raise. Never gotten a bad check.. I have been paid. Now, with leukemia, they have really stepped up to the plate and taken care of me, simply by sticking by me when I am away more than I am at work.

                    Loyalty goes both directions. Maybe companies would be better to their employees if their employees seemed to care? That is the issue we are facing. We are transitioning to a younger work force, simply due to retirement of so many. These "kids" are not asked to work OT.. Occasionally, yes, but not regularly. We work a AWS schedule or 9-80.. . 5 days one week and 4 the next. 3 day weekend every other week. They complain about the working hours. 7:00 to 4:30 or 7:30 to 5:00.. for 8 of those days, then 8 hours on the 9th.. That is a voluntary schedule. You can work 40 hours each week.. They have the exact same medical benefits, 401k, etc.. I don't get what they are unhappy about. Outside they just don't won't to work.. They just don't care... Oh, and the vast majority of them still live at home with their mom/dad, even at 30...
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                    • #12
                      I started out selling newspapers on the corner @ 11, worked every year doing various jobs from pumping gas to making class rings at a Jewlers during HS. Straight out of HS I caught on with a start up, it was a small company and the owner was a go getter. I paid close attention to him and identified his mistakes before he did. 2 years later I took over his biggest contract because I was the one hustling my butt and got recognized for it.

                      Hustle your butt off, if your boss doesn't recognize it, or show the right appreciation, some other boss will. That contract turned into 16 years before I sold it and essentially retired from the long grind that owning a business is. Now I work a 40 hr job and don't have any cares. I'm set up from my early life and am just marking time here now. Doesn't mean I flake off, just means I don't take the job home with me as I did back in the day, they don't pay me enough for that.
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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Still Learning View Post
                        The days of legacy employees have been gone for decades. Grand fathers, fathers and sons working for the same company doesn’t happen anymore. After 5 years with any company, you now cost them money, be it vacation time, profit sharing, etc. unless you’re doing exceptional work you can always be replaced.
                        This thread doesn't speak well for me, same employer for 31 years, yes, I had a few pay raises but me personally the pay isn't as great as some may think a commercial driver should make.

                        However it was the only way a work-life balance could be achieved, over the road while making more wasn't worth it to me, so I got in local and raised good children and learned to live frugally and not care what other people think.
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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by erie skipper View Post
                          Would that all employers take that approach! I worked for those with that type of approach and demanded no less from anyone I managed or employed in the past. And I demand it of myself and raised my kids the same way. The days of jr living in the basement need to go away along with feel good spaces or whatever they were called. I say once again bring back a military requirement for all our young people and for those who cross our border illegally and want to become citizens. Enough is quite enough!
                          If you worked the hours Elon wants, you'd never have seen your kids, much less raised them.

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by V_Thirteen View Post

                            If you worked the hours Elon wants, you'd never have seen your kids, much less raised them.
                            He doesn't really say how many hours that is. I take what Elon is saying is he wants people dedicated and motivated to improving Twitter and want to work hard doing it. To a current Twitter employee, working hard could mean 40 hours a week and because of Twitter past, they might not be capable. If I was a person in the technology sphere and had the ability, I think the mass exodus is perfect opportunity for a new job.

                            With the mass layoff's at Fakebook, Google and now Twitter, these jobs are going to be more scarce.
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