Trump to be arrested???

[Ol Mucky]

I read a .gov study not too long ago
After 7 years over 90% of illegals end up on some sort of .gov welfare.
They cost the nation 3x more than what they provide.
And this was before joes invasion

[V_Thirteen]

Agree with most of this except the wall... uncontrolled immigration will destroy this country. A "nation" is a people of shared origin, culture, goals, values. The idea of a melting pot was that we could accept a very controlled number of people who wanted to become like us, and blend them in at a rate where they could. They worked hard, and became Americans.

What we have now is an invasion.

[LFBB]

As much as I like DeSantis I'm pretty sure he was among those anointed by George Soros as America's future leaders. (He too has done unconstitutional things already)

[Jughed]

In simple layman's language, what is the real answer to the current woes that seem to be displayed here? Some have said a civil war (which itself is a strange term, how can you have a "civil" war?) who would be fighting, north V south? East V west? Everyone just fighting anyone? Population taking over Washington? What about a decent President, is there a "real" candidate with a chance of winning? Could a real President actually achieve tangible results? Is there enough minority loony groups that will forever disrupt real progress? Whatever the answer might be, it won't/can't be popular or a lot of fun, hard long term decisions will be tough.
edit.....this is a genuine question, in a way, we are heading the same way, changing leaders and political parties more often than our clothes!

If we push further to the left/right fringes - which is what we seem to be doing - things will turn to shit. Things are turning to shit.

People from both sides dig in hard for pissant issues - as one side pushes, the other side digs in harder.


IMHO, transfolks, gay rights, abortion, welfare the wall... small issues like that will not break the country. Things like our spending, debt, trade, foreign policy - they can break the country. They are the majors - and both sides are not doing anything to stop it. NOTHING.

Our last guy accelerated debt, as did the guy before that, and the guy before that... and those guys come from both sides. Trump tried to be better on trade/policy - but it's not going to stick.

I personally think both sides want us digging in our heels and arguing over the pissant issues. This allows them, all of them, to spend us into oblivion.



Both sides have some valid points. Neither side likes to accept those points, many times simply based on the principal of "sides". IMHO, we need to stop the BS infighting, have someone that can work the center and get shit done. We need to be brought back together vs being pushed further apart.


And before anyone calls me a libturd or Pedo supporter - my personal politics are hardcore small government, constitutional libertarian. I think everyone is financially liberal - including the pubs and Trump. Trump was a huge big government finical liberal. But I know fully well that my ideal of government would throw our country into complete chaos at this point.


I think Desantis/Haley would bring some form of normalcy for a bit... and I think Haley can work the center better than any of the other fools out there.

[Jughed]

Trump did what others have done without consequence, to hold him up to the law (assuming he broke one) is BS. Not that I support him, just being fair.

Yep, he's no different from the others, could be worse, may not be as bad... who knows.

My problem with partisan hackery politics - not saying you are a hack!! - is that Trumpers would be cheering if Pedo Joe was on trial or arrested. They would throw another boat parade.


This could be the start of something good. Taking the liars, cheat's and rule breakers to task. Something I think everyone here would agree with? Hopefully.

But -

As long as they don't start with their guy. Starting with the other guy is great, just not my guy.

[LFBB]

In simple layman's language, what is the real answer to the current woes that seem to be displayed here? Some have said a civil war (which itself is a strange term, how can you have a "civil" war?) who would be fighting, north V south? East V west? Everyone just fighting anyone? Population taking over Washington? What about a decent President, is there a "real" candidate with a chance of winning? Could a real President actually achieve tangible results? Is there enough minority loony groups that will forever disrupt real progress? Whatever the answer might be, it won't/can't be popular or a lot of fun, hard long term decisions will be tough.
edit.....this is a genuine question, in a way, we are heading the same way, changing leaders and political parties more often than our clothes!

Our world system is so bad I don't see how we come out of this positively without a new government. I see a bunch of negative outcomes for sure.

Anyone thought about the "Liberty Dollar" lately?

[LFBB]

Apparently, he paid an ex playmate more hush money than the porn star, and he paid the playmates doorman to keep his trap shut as well.

But hey - he's an honest Christian family man - so it must be fake news.


Soooo many people told me that I was infected with TDS when I brought this shit up before the election - so here is my big fat middle finger to those sooo many people.

I really hope, really hope - that people were not actually believing the Don in this case. I hope they were just playing it off so they could get their man elected. If not - well, there is an old southern saying that I learned - well, bless your heart.

Trump did what others have done without consequence, to hold him up to the law (assuming he broke one) is BS. Not that I support him, just being fair.

[noelm]

In simple layman's language, what is the real answer to the current woes that seem to be displayed here? Some have said a civil war (which itself is a strange term, how can you have a "civil" war?) who would be fighting, north V south? East V west? Everyone just fighting anyone? Population taking over Washington? What about a decent President, is there a "real" candidate with a chance of winning? Could a real President actually achieve tangible results? Is there enough minority loony groups that will forever disrupt real progress? Whatever the answer might be, it won't/can't be popular or a lot of fun, hard long term decisions will be tough.
edit.....this is a genuine question, in a way, we are heading the same way, changing leaders and political parties more often than our clothes!

[Jughed]

Apparently, he paid an ex playmate more hush money than the porn star, and he paid the playmates doorman to keep his trap shut as well.

But hey - he's an honest Christian family man - so it must be fake news.


Soooo many people told me that I was infected with TDS when I brought this shit up before the election - so here is my big fat middle finger to those sooo many people.

I really hope, really hope - that people were not actually believing the Don in this case. I hope they were just playing it off so they could get their man elected. If not - well, there is an old southern saying that I learned - well, bless your heart.

[Ol Mucky]

Exactly.
We know he made all that coin from amazingly investing his presidential salary and of course "book deals"

[Ol Mucky]

THe last line in the article:
He faces 11 criminal counts of trying to influence the Obama and Trump administrations. Prosecutors have also accused the musician of attempting to interfere with the latter’s investigation into Low.

Never mentions trump except the last line.
Hmm
does that imply they used the monies to defeat trump?
Trump recieved monies to help him win?

Or just another way to throw trumps name out there?

[NO WAKE]

Ain’t it funny how you aren’t hearing anything at all about this! Wrong cast of characters for the propaganda machine I guess!

[jmike]

He likes to dare the monkeys...

[Coastboater]

What is the current situation? Is he "officially" in custody? Is he fling some kind of appeal and set free until then? Is he likely to actually be charged and spend time "inside" (which I seriously doubt) we are getting pretty conflicting "news" stories and it's difficult to piece it all together.

Perhaps it’s easier to characterize with an analogy.
Go to the zoo, walk by the monkey cage and they throw their poop at you.
Trump is walking by, the monkeys are from the media, FBI, CIA, Dem operatives, etc., all throwing poop.
They haven’t got much poop to stick to him, but they’ve and endless supply of poop and Trump actually likes walking by the monkey cage.

[SeaCat22]

[QUOTE=LFBB;n184321]https://nypost.com/2023/04/03/leonar...-30m-to-obama/

They spelled J Lo wrong....and yes, you could fit 30M in her booty.